ITEM CC1OXFORDSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL
MINUTES of the meeting of the County Council held at County Hall on Tuesday 17 June 2003 commencing at 11.30 am, finishing at 5.50 pm and reconvening on Tuesday 24 June 2003 commencing at 10.30 am and finishing at 6.40 pm.
Present: Councillor DAVID TURNER – in the chair Councillors:
The Council considered the matters, reports and recommendations contained or referred to in the agenda for the meeting and decided as set out below. Except insofar as otherwise specified, the reasons for the decisions are contained in the agenda and reports, copies of which are attached to the signed Minutes.
40/01. DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST
(Agenda Item 1) The following interests were declared:-
41/01. PETITIONS AND PUBLIC ADDRESS
(Agenda Item 2) Petitions Councillor Sanders presented a petition, containing approximately 250 signatures, urging the Council to improve road safety on the Marlow Road, Henley. RESOLVED: to refer the petition to the Executive. Public Address The following requests to address the meeting had been agreed:-
Mr Hugh-Jones expressed his concerns over what he saw as inadequate publicity regarding the Periodic Electoral Review. He was particularly interested in local democracy and greatly regretted that he had not been aware that this matter was being considered by the Democracy & Organisation Committee on 15 May.
42/03. A PRIORITY FRAMEWORK FOR 2004/05 ONWARDS
(Agenda Item 3) The Council considered a report (CC3) from the Leader and Deputy Leader of the Council which identified ten service and budget priorities and three partnership priorities which the Executive had proposed should be taken into account when making the budget for 2004/05 and later years. This report invited the Council as a whole to consider these priorities and to offer advice and/or alternatives to the Executive on the basis of "one in, one out". This gave the Council, for the first time, the opportunity to help shape the Executive’s priorities before they were published for consultation with stakeholders and partners, after which the Executive would draw up its final budget recommendations to be considered by the Council in February 2004. In relation to the GCSE Attainment priority, Councillor Bryden moved and Councillor Moley seconded that the Executive be advised to
On being put to the vote the motion was carried by 43 votes to 6. In relation to the Public Transport priority, Councillor Patrick moved and Councillor Crawford seconded that the Executive be advised to add at end of the description " , ensuring that rural areas also benefit." On being put to the vote this motion was carried by 23 votes to 21. In relation to the Youth Crime reduction priority, Councillor Roaf moved and Councillor Fooks seconded that the Executive be advised to delete "to prevent young people from being drawn into" and replace with "to improve services for young people in order to reduce the risk of them being drawn into" On being put to the vote this motion was carried by 39 votes to 14. In relation to the West End of Oxford partnership priority, Councillor Julian Cooper moved and Councillor Bryden seconded that the Executive be advised to add at the end of Description, "and progressing Expressway Oxford (GTE)." On being put to the vote this motion was carried by 31 votes to 16. It was then moved by Councillor Hodgson and seconded by Councillor McIntosh-Stedman that there should be a new Health and Safety priority, to replace and incorporate the Road Maintenance item, and that the reasons for choosing this as a priority included:
On being put to the vote this motion was lost by 34 votes to 22. Councillor Brighouse then moved and Councillor Hodgson seconded that the Executive be advised that Social Inclusion be incorporated into each of the agreed priorities (not a separate priority on its own). This approach reflected the Oxfordshire Community Partnership’s idea of "Golden Threads", one of which was Social Inclusion. (See the presentation at the OCP Forum on 12th June 2003 by Professor Graham Upton, Chair of OCP Steering Group.) On being put to the vote this motion was carried nem con.
RESOLVED: to advise the Executive as follows:-
Delete "GCSE Attainment", and replace with "Educational Attainment". In the Description, delete "the County Council’s PSA target for GCSE attainment" and replace with: "the County Council’s PSA targets 1, 2 and 3 for educational attainment".
Delete "to prevent young people from being drawn into" and replace with "To improve services for young people in order to prevent them being drawn into"
43/03. OXFORDSHIRE STRUCTURE PLAN REVIEW
(Agenda Item 4) The Structure Plan Working Group had been considering the content of the draft review of the Structure Plan to 2016. The draft update had been prepared in the light of the outcome of consultation on issues that had been carried out last year and a copy of the draft had been circulated to all members of the Council prior to the meeting of the Environment Scrutiny Committee on 16 May 2003. A large number of houses and other development were planned already at Oxford, Banbury, Bicester, Didcot and Witney under the adopted Structur Plan. The Review draft proposed that the main locations for new employment development should be these four towns to encourage a more balanced and diverse range of employment in the towns. After 2011 the draft proposed that the focus for development should move towards the north–south corridor between Bicester, Didcot and Wantage-Grove. Apart from development on sites within the main urban areas, significant development, in addition to that proposed in the adopted Structure Plan, was proposed at Bicester and Grove in the period to 2016. The next stage would be the placing of the draft on public deposit, giving members of the public and interested bodies the opportunity to make representations about it. This was a statutory stage, in which the Deposit Draft represented the Council’s formal proposals. It was the advice of the Council’s Monitoring Officer that a decision to approve the Deposit Draft could only be made by the full Council. It was, however, the Executive’s responsibility to put forward proposals for approval by the Council, but in doing so to take into account any comments from the Environment Scrutiny Committee.
The Environment Scrutiny Committee’s comments had been considered by the Executive on 10 June and had been circulated to all Councillors with the papers for that meeting. Having considered the Scrutiny Committee’s comments, the Executive on 10 June had resolved to:
Councillor Purse, Executive Member for Strategic Planning & Waste Management, opened the debate by moving that the Council approve the draft Review document that had been before the Executive on 10 June. This motion was seconded by Councillor Robertson. Councillor Hudson then moved and Councillor Gatehouse seconded the amendment of Chapter 2 of the draft Review document by the deletion of paragraph 2.8 and all other mentions of restraining employment growth in the City. After debate this amendment was put to the vote and was lost by 29 votes to 27. Councillor Shouler then moved and Councillor Robins seconded that the Council
After some debate had taken place, Councillor Ferriman moved and Councillor Roy Mold seconded that the question be now put. The Chair indicated that in his opinion the amendment before the meeting had not been sufficiently discussed and that he would call the rest of the speakers on his list. He did, however, urge members to speak as briefly as possible and to avoid repetition. After further debate the amendment was put to the vote. Seven members by standing in their places required a named vote in accordance with Council Procedure Rule (15)(a). Voting was as follows:- Councillors voting for the amendment (37) Brighouse, Brown, Bulley, Crabbe, Dawes, Evans, Farrow, Ferriman, Fitzgerald-O’Connor, Fulljames, Gatehouse, Harper, Harris, Hastings, Hayward, Hudson, Joslin, Karmali, McIntosh-Stedman, Mallon, Mitchell, Roy Mold, Sandra Mold, Power, Reynolds, Robertson, Robins, Rose, Sanders, Seale, Segaran, Shouler, Standingford, Tompkins, Tudor Hughes, Viney, Witcher. Councillors voting against the amendment (22) Belson, Bradshaw, Bryden, Julian Cooper, Crawford, Farrell, Fawcett, Fooks, Janet Godden, Margaret Godden, Greene, Hook, Johnston, Kyffin, Legge, Moley, Patrick, Purse, Roaf, Sibley, Turner, Wyatt. Councillors abstaining (2) Hodgson, MacKenzie. The amendment was declared carried. Councillor Patrick then moved and Councillor Crawford seconded that paragraph 2.12 of the draft Review document be amended by the addition at the end of the words: "As there are already problems with the transport infrastructure, it is essential that the required improvements are in place before any development is occupied. Before planning permission can be given, it will be necessary to carry out a full environmental assessment into the possible risks of flooding both locally and further downstream." After debate the amendment was put to the vote. Seven members by standing in their places required a named vote in accordance with Council Procedure Rule (15)(a). Voting was as follows:- Councillors voting for the amendment (39) Belson, Bradshaw, Brown, Bryden, Bulley, Julian Cooper, Crabbe, Crawford, Evans, Farrell, Farrow, Fawcett, Fitzgerald-O’Connor, Fooks, Fulljames, Janet Godden, Margaret Godden, Greene, Hastings, Hayward, Hook, Johnston, Joslin, Kyffin, Legge, Mallon, Mitchell, Moley, Patrick, Roaf, Sanders, Seale, Shouler, Sibley, Tudor Hughes, Turner, Viney, Witcher, Wyatt. Councillors voting against the amendment (13) Brighouse, Dawes, Ferriman, Gatehouse, Harper, Harris, Hodgson, McIntosh-Stedman, Power, Reynolds, Robins, Segaran, Standingford. Councillor abstaining (2) Purse, Robertson. The amendment was declared carried.
It was then moved by Councillor Greene and seconded by Councillor Dawes that paragraphs 2.16 down to 2.21 in Chapter 2 on page 9 be deleted and replaced by the following:
* that the transport infrastructure of the County will be overloaded by the present adopted structure plan and much will depend on how this is to be addressed particularly with regard to the A34 transport corridor and the progress of the Council’s strategy for the A40 and the potential for an extended Expressway for there to be any certainty for developing areas; * that "Implementing the Strategy" (paragraphs [2.24] through to [2.27] below) should be actively pursued before any further numbers of, and locations of, housing are predicted." and the remaining paragraphs in Chapter 2 be renumbered accordingly. At this point Councillor Hastings, having declared a prejudicial interest, left the meeting and took no part in the debate on this amendment nor in the voting thereon. After debate the amendment was put to the vote. Seven members by standing in their places required a named vote in accordance with Council Procedure Rule (15)(a). Voting was as follows:- Councillors voting for the amendment (16) Belson, Bulley, Crabbe, Dawes, Farrow, Fitzgerald-O’Connor, Fulljames, Greene, Mallon, Reynolds, Rose, Sanders, Seale, Shouler, Tudor Hughes, Viney. Councillors voting against the amendment (32) Brighouse, Brown, Bryden, Julian Cooper, Crawford, Evans, Farrell, Ferriman, Gatehouse, Janet Godden, Margaret Godden, Harper, Hayward, Hodgson, Hudson, Johnston, Karmali, Kyffin, Legge, McIntosh-Stedman, Roy Mold, Sandra Mold, Moley, Power, Robins, Segaran, Sibley, Standingford, Tompkins, Turner, Witcher, Wyatt. Councillors abstaining (11) Bradshaw, Fawcett, Fooks, Harris, Hook, Joslin, Mitchell, Patrick, Purse, Roaf, Robertson. The amendment was declared lost.
44/03. ADJOURNMENT OF MEETING
At 5.50 pm it was moved by Councillor Harris, seconded by Councillor Gatehouse and RESOLVED: (by 30 votes to 24) that the meeting be adjourned to 10.30 am on Tuesday 24 June 2003.
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meeting reconvened at 10.30 am on 24 June 2003 (Agenda Item 4) Councillor Fooks moved and Councillor Margaret Godden seconded that paragraph 2.20 be deleted and replaced with: "Except as required for the provision of 1,000 houses in a mixed use development south of Grenoble Road, the County Council does not see a need to release land in the Green Belt around Oxford." After debate the amendment was put to the vote. Seven members by standing in their places required a named vote in accordance with Council Procedure Rule (15)(a). Voting was as follows:- Councillors voting for the amendment (31) Belson, Bradshaw, Bryden, Bulley, Julian Cooper, Crabbe, Crawford, Dawes, Farrell, Farrow, Fitzgerald-O’Connor, Fooks, Janet Godden, Margaret Godden, Hayward, Jelf, Johnston, Kyffin, Legge, Mitchell, Moley, Purse, Roaf, Robertson, Robins, Rose, Sanders, Seale, Shouler, Turner, Wyatt. Councillors voting against the amendment (13) Ted Cooper, Evans, Fulljames, Greene, Harper, Hodgson, Hudson, Joslin, McIntosh-Stedman, Roy Mold, Sandra Mold, Power, Segaran. Councillors abstaining (12) Brighouse, Ferriman, Gatehouse, Harris, MacKenzie, Mallon, Patrick, Reynolds, Sibley, Standingford, Tompkins, Tudor Hughes. The amendment was declared carried. Councillor Robins then moved and Councillor Harper seconded that Chapter 2 be amended by the addition of a new paragraph at the end of the section headed "Post 2016" (paragraphs 2.16 - 2.21): "As an alternative to the expansion of Bicester, Didcot and Grove and to development in the Oxford Green Belt, consideration should be given to the development of a new community beyond the boundary of the Green Belt. The preferred size and location of such a development will need to be determined so as to reflect the extent and location of future housing need as it becomes apparent". After debate this amendment was put to the vote and was carried by 45 votes to 9. It was then moved by Councillor Sibley and seconded by Councillor Hodgson that there should be no further housing development in Bicester and the surrounding areas in close proximity post 2016 (paragraphs 2.17- 2.18) until the present inadequate infrastructure has been improved, e.g.:-
After debate the amendment was put to the vote. Seven members by standing in their places required a named vote in accordance with Council Procedure Rule (15)(a). Voting was as follows:- Councillors voting for the amendment (34) Brighouse, Bryden, Ted Cooper, Julian Cooper, Crawford, Evans, Farrell, Ferriman, Gatehouse, Janet Godden, Margaret Godden, Harper, Harris, Hodgson, Hudson, Johnston, Joslin, Kyffin, Legge, MacKenzie, McIntosh-Stedman, Roy Mold, Sandra Mold, Moley, Patrick, Power, Roaf, Robins, Segaran, Sibley, Standingford, Tompkins, Turner, Wyatt. Councillors voting against the amendment (18) Belson, Bulley, Crabbe, Dawes, Farrow, Fulljames, Greene, Hastings, Hayward, Jelf, Mallon, Mitchell, Reynolds, Robertson, Rose, Sanders, Seale, Shouler Councillors abstaining (4) Fitzgerald-O’Connor, Fooks, Purse, Tudor Hughes The amendment was declared carried. It was then moved by Councillor Moley and seconded by Councillor Patrick that in Policy G3: (a) references to "leisure and community facilities" be replaced with "leisure, educational, health and community facilities"; and (b) the words "will be provided within a timescale agreed by the local planning authorities" be deleted and replaced with "will be provided in a phased manner as the development progresses". After debate part (a) of the amendment was put to the vote and was carried nem con. In relation to part (b), seven members by standing in their places required a named vote in accordance with Council Procedure Rule (15)(a). Voting was as follows:- Councillors voting for part (b) (27) Belson, Bryden, Julian Cooper, Crabbe, Crawford, Farrell, Farrow, Fitzgerald-O’Connor, Fooks, Fulljames, Janet Godden, Margaret Godden, Greene, Hayward, Jelf, Johnston, Legge, Mitchell, Moley, Patrick, Purse, Roaf, Sanders, Seale, Tudor Hughes, Turner, Wyatt. Councillors voting against part (b) (24) Brighouse, Bulley, Ted Cooper, Dawes, Evans, Ferriman, Gatehouse, Harper, Harris, Hastings, Hodgson, Hudson, Joslin, MacKenzie, McIntosh-Stedman, Roy Mold, Sandra Mold, Reynolds, Robins, Segaran, Shouler, Sibley, Standingford, Tompkins. Part (b) of the amendment was declared carried. Councillor Hudson then moved and Councillor Hodgson seconded that Policy EN6 be amended to read: "There will be a presumption in favour of physically preserving nationally and internationally important archaeological and geological remains, whether scheduled or not, and their settings. Where development affecting other archaeological and geological remains is allowed it should include appropriate measures to secure the preservation in situ or where this is not feasible, recording of archaeological and geological features before development." with the heading changed to "Archaeology and Geology". After debate this amendment was put to the vote and was carried nem con. Councillor Hudson then moved and Councillor Brighouse seconded that Policy E1 be amended as follows:-
After debate the amendment was put to the vote, parts (a) and (b) being voted on separately. Seven members by standing in their places required a named vote in accordance with Council Procedure Rule (15)(a). Voting was as follows:- Councillors voting for part (a) (28) Brighouse, Bulley, Ted Cooper, Dawes, Evans, Ferriman, Janet Godden, Harper, Harris, Hastings, Hodgson, Hudson, Jelf, Joslin, MacKenzie, McIntosh-Stedman, Mallon, Mitchell, Roy Mold, Sandra Mold, Power, Reynolds, Robins, Rose, Segaran, Sibley, Standingford, Tompkins. Councillors voting against part (a) (24) Belson, Bryden, Julian Cooper, Crabbe, Farrell, Farrow, Fitzgerald-O’Connor, Fooks, Fulljames, Margaret Godden, Greene, Hayward, Kyffin, Moley, Patrick, Purse, Roaf, Robertson, Sanders, Seale, Tudor Hughes, Turner, Viney, Wyatt. Councillors abstaining (3) Crawford, Legge, Shouler. Part (a) of the amendment was declared carried. Councillors voting for part (b) (20) Brighouse, Ted Cooper, Evans, Ferriman, Harper, Harris, Hodgson, Hudson, Joslin, MacKenzie, McIntosh-Stedman, Mitchell, Roy Mold, Sandra Mold, Power, Robins, Segaran, Sibley, Standingford, Tompkins. Councillors voting against part (b) (35) Belson, Bryden, Bulley, Julian Cooper, Crabbe, Crawford, Dawes, Farrell, Farrow, Fitzgerald-O’Connor, Fooks, Fulljames, Janet Godden, Margaret Godden, Greene, Hastings, Hayward, Jelf, Kyffin, Legge, Mallon, Moley, Patrick, Purse, Reynolds, Roaf, Robertson, Rose, Sanders, Seale, Shouler, Tudor Hughes, Turner, Viney, Wyatt. Part (b) of the amendment was declared lost. Councillor Hodgson then moved and Councillor Robins seconded that paragraph 7.18 be amended by the addition of a new sentence: "Consideration should also be given to innovative forms of ownership, such as co-operative housing developments, as a means of increasing the availability of affordable housing." On being put to the vote this amendment was carried nem con.
Councillor Tudor Hughes then moved and Councillor Greene seconded that: (a) no specific geographical area within the County be designated for a third and additional sand and gravel extraction area in the draft Review of the Structure Plan 2016; (b) consequently the designation of the Stadhampton - Berinsfield - Warborough - Benson area (paragraphs 11.7-11.9 of the Review document) be deleted; (c) provision be included in the Review document requiring the identification through the Minerals and Waste Local Plan of the most appropriate source or sources to make up any shortfall in the supply of sand and gravel, thus enabling further research and consultation to be undertaken before any additional area is designated for that purpose. At this point, Councillor Crabbe, having declared a prejudicial interest in this issue, left the meeting. He took no part in the debate or the vote on this amendment, nor did he vote on the substantive motion. After debate this amendment was put to the vote and was lost by 36 votes to 16. Councillor Seale then moved and Councillor Dawes seconded that in paragraph 4.5 the first three lines of Policy T1 be amended to read: "Transport measures and development should recognise and make provision for the increasing ownership and use of private cars but at the same time give emphasis to the needs of pedestrians, cyclists and public transport especially in built up areas, and balance these against ease of traffic movement, thereby .............."(continue to the end of the paragraph unchanged). After debate this amendment was put to the vote and was lost by 30 votes to 18. The substantive motion moved by Councillor Purse was then put to the vote and was carried by 45 votes to 1. RESOLVED: to:
"As there are already problems with the transport infrastructure, it is essential that the required improvements are in place before any development is occupied. Before planning permission can be given, it will be necessary to carry out a full environmental assessment into the possible risks of flooding both locally and further downstream."
‘Except as required for the provision of 1,000 houses in a mixed use development south of Grenoble Road, the County Council does not see a need to release land in the Green Belt around Oxford.’
"As an alternative to the expansion of Bicester, Didcot and Grove and to development in the Oxford Green Belt, consideration should be given to the development of a new community beyond the boundary of the Green Belt. The preferred size and location of such a development will need to be determined so as to reflect the extent and location of future housing need as it becomes apparent".
"There will be a presumption in favour of physically preserving nationally and internationally important archaeological and geological remains, whether scheduled or not, and their settings. Where development affecting other archaeological and geological remains is allowed it should include appropriate measures to secure the preservation in situ or where this is not feasible, recording of archaeological and geological features before development." with the heading changed to "Archaeology and Geology".
b. authorise the Director for Environment & Economy, prior to public deposit, to make the necessary changes to the document to reflect the amendments agreed by the Council, together with any presentational and minor textual changes that might be required, subject to consultation with the Executive Members for Strategic Planning & Waste Management and Transport.
46/03. MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING
(Agenda Item 5) RESOLVED: that the Minutes of the meeting of Council held on 1 April 2003 be approved and signed as a correct record. In relation to Minute 32/03 (Question 3), Councillor Seale reported that he had provided Councillor Hodgson with the information he had promised. However, Councillor Hodgson indicated that he did not feel he had received a satisfactory response. In relation to Minute 32/03 (Question 6), in reply to a question from Councillor Hodgson, Councillor Mitchell reported that there was a strong field of candidates for the post of Head of Procurement and interviews would be held on 15 July.
47/03. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
(Agenda Item 6) Apologies for absence were received as follows:- 17 June Councillors Dennis, Heathcoat, Jelf, Law, Ludlow, Simmons, Wilmshurst. 24 June Councillors Dennis, Heathcoat, Hook, Karmali, Law, Ludlow, Wilmshurst, Witcher. RESOLVED: in accordance with Section 85(1) of the Local Government Act 1972, to approve Councillor Dennis’s continued absence from meetings of the Authority on the grounds of ill-health.
48/03. OFFICIAL COMMUNICATIONS
(Agenda Item 7) Former County Councillors Daphne Nash and Betty Roberts The Chair advised the Council of the death on 26 May of former County Councillor Daphne Nash and on 17 June of former County Councillor Betty Roberts. Tributes were paid to both former Councillors and the Council observed a minute’s silence in their memory. Councillor Margaret MacKenzie The Council congratulated Councillor MacKenzie on being made an Honorary Alderman by the Vale of White Horse District Council. Queen’s Birthday Honours List The Council congratulated Richard Hallam, Director of the County Music Service, on the award of an MBE.
49/03. APPOINTMENTS
(Agenda Item 8) RESOLVED: to make the following appointments on the nomination of political groups:- Community Safety Scrutiny Committee Councillor Jelf in place of Councillor Greene Councillor Tompkins in place of Councillor McAndrews Corporate Governance Scrutiny Committee Councillor Evans in place of Councillor MacKenzie Democracy & Organisation Committee Councillor Patrick in place of Councillor Dennis Health Overview & Scrutiny Committee Councillor Patrick in place of Councillor Roaf Learning & Culture Scrutiny Committee Councillor MacKenzie in place of Councillor Brighouse Pension Fund Committee Councillor Harris in place of Councillor Gatehouse Councillor Hodgson in place of Councillor Roy Mold Standards Committee Councillor Patrick in place of Councillor Dennis
50/03. OXFORDSHIRE PLAN 2003/04
(Agenda Item 10) The Council was reminded that the Oxfordshire Plan, which fulfilled the statutory requirement to produce an annual Best Value Performance Plan, was one of the strategic plans which were subject to approval by full Council following consideration by both the Executive and relevant Scrutiny Committee, in accordance with the Budget and Policy Framework Procedure Rules set out in the Constitution. The Plan was required to be approved and submitted to the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister by the end of June. On 29 April the Executive had agreed an outline draft of the Plan and invited the Corporate Governance Scrutiny Committee to make any comments in time for consideration by the Executive at its 27 May meeting. The Corporate Governance Scrutiny Committee had considered the draft Plan on 8 May 2003 and the key points arising during that debate had been reported to the Executive on 27 May. Having considered those comments, the Executive had resolved to recommend the Council to approve the Plan. RESOLVED: (on a motion by Councillor Mitchell, seconded by Councillor Margaret Godden and carried nem con) to approve the Oxfordshire Plan 2003/04 (CC10), subject to the addition of such further information as might be required by the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister, following consultation with the Leader and Deputy Leader of the Council.
51/03. ADULT LEARNING PLAN 2003/04
(Agenda Item 11) The Council was reminded that the Adult Learning Plan was one of the strategic plans which were subject to approval by full Council, following consideration by both the Executive and relevant Scrutiny Committee, in accordance with the Budget and Policy Framework Procedure Rules set out in the Constitution. In November 2002 the Executive had agreed the Adult and Community Learning Service’s revised Purpose and Strategic Objectives as the basis for the Plan, and in December the Learning & Culture Scrutiny Committee had commended this, noting in particular the position in relation to fee standardisation; joint working with libraries; developing community learning including 'learn direct'; and the developing provision for settled ethnic groups. The Learning & Skills Council had issued guidance for the Plan in February 2003, indicating at the same time what their priorities for funding would be and changing the delivery date from 31 March to June 2003. This had allowed time for fuller consultation with the Learning & Culture Scrutiny Committee, who had considered the draft Plan on 20 May and submitted their comments to the Executive on 27 May. The Executive on 27 May had considered the Plan in the light of the Scrutiny Committee’s comments and had recommended the Council to approve it. RESOLVED: (on a motion by Councillor Crabbe, seconded by Councillor Margaret Godden and carried nem con) to approve the draft Adult Learning Plan for submission to the Learning & Skills Council by the 30 June closing date, subject to incorporation of any matter required by further advice from consultees and/or the Learning & Skills Council.
52/03. REPORT OF THE EXECUTIVE
(Agenda Item 12) The Council considered the report of the Executive (CC10) and Executive Members responded to questions in relation to the following items included in the report:-
RESOLVED: (on a motion by Councillor Mitchell, seconded by Councillor Margaret Godden and carried nem con) In relation to item 30 (Debt Management Strategy), to approve the proposed Strategy (attached at Annex 1 to the Report of the Executive - CC12) for the control of the County Council’s borrowing.
53/03. QUESTIONS WITH NOTICE FROM MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL
(Agenda Item 13) In accordance with the arrangements set out in Council Procedure Rule (9)(b)-(j) questions were asked and answered as follows:-
Does the allowance the County Council makes to bus operators for annual inflation adequately take into account the cost rises in this sector and will the policy be modified to take account of these inflationary pressures? ANSWER I am sure members would agree that it would not be appropriate simply to give operators whatever inflation increase they themselves say that they need. County Council policy is therefore based on use of recognised national indices. We do not use the general inflation rate, but instead a basket of specialist indices more directly applicable to the bus indices. This basket was agreed with the bus industry, and last reviewed as part of the Best Value Review in 2000. It is made up of 45% Average Earnings Index Transport and Communications; 35% Index of Producer Prices (transport equipment); and 20% Retail Prices Index - Motoring Expenses (petrol and oil). In recent years this has produced price increases well below the cost rises which operators have said they are experiencing. However, despite specifically asking other local authorities and those bus operators who have expressed concern at the current index, we have been unable to discover any alternative independent index which would better reflect local circumstances. I understand that the Confederation of Passenger Transport - the bus operators’ national association - is working on a national system of bus operator inflation indexing. I hope that Oxfordshire operators are ensuring that this work takes into account their circumstances. I intend, if and when the outcome of this work is published, to consider its applicability to Oxfordshire circumstances and to recommend that our system of inflation payments for subsidy contracts takes it into account if I feel that is appropriate.
Is the Deputy Leader of Council aware that in January - May 2003 usage of paper by the Duplicating Unit for Members’ reports, minutes etc. totalled approximately 290,000 sheets compared with approximately 435,000 sheets in the corresponding period of 2002, a decline in usage of one third? Would the Deputy Leader like to comment on this welcome trend? ANSWER I have been unable to confirm the figures that Councillor Law has produced. The Duplicating Unit say that paper usage has gone up slightly over the last year and that, in any case, they are unable to break it down by department. I shall try to clarify the true position.
What is your opinion of the value of transmitting live, via the Internet, audio and visual webcasts (broadcasts) of County Council and Executive Meetings? Will you, in any event, take the necessary steps to arrange for an investigation into the cost and other practical challenges of making such webcasts? ANSWER Our web-site team has already carried out a feasibility study to investigate the cost, technical and other issues which would be involved in webcasting Council meetings. A proposal was put forward to the Chief Executive’s Modernisation Fund last year but was turned down on that occasion. The annual cost at that time was £42,000. Should we wish to pursue this option again we might well include Executive meetings and possibly Scrutiny as well. It would need to have the support of members so there would have to be consultation beforehand. It is clear that putting meetings on the web opens them up to a much wider audience and political groups might be a good forum for initial discussions as to whether we should reopen this proposal. SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION First of all may I thank Councillor Godden for her answer and the encouraging sounds that she makes in it. I am quite keen on this sort of thing, but I am totally unaware that a website team carried out this feasibility study. I do not remember being told. If I was told or written to about it I have lost it in a sea of paper and that would be very unusual for me. So could I ask how Councillors were informed of this decision? Could I ask, if the decision was turned down, who turned it down and can I ask how I can be guided towards the appropriate report so that I can read it, with a view to having a discussion within our political group? SUPPLEMENTARY ANSWER As far as I am aware, no Councillors were consulted before the study was carried out but it was done within the department and a proposal came forward. The Modernisation Fund decisions are made by the Chief Executive with the advice of Leaders and to the best of my recollection it would have been a matter of money available and us deciding that this was something we did not want to pursue at the time. If enthusiasm is growing then we might think about it again. That is why I gave the answer in the terms I did. I think the first thing that needs to be decided is whether we the Councillors would wish our meetings to be broadcast on the web either this meeting or the Executive meetings or Scrutiny. They all could be and it is indeed a matter which people might like to discuss in their political groups. If we get a strong steer that in fact it is something we would like to do, we can then ask the IT department to have another look at the cost and we could bring it back and decide if we want to go ahead. If the general feeling is that we are not yet ready to be broadcast on the web then we need take it no further. As Councillors I think we have never visited it at all.
The Executive’s Forward Plan is seen as a key public information document that acts in identifying the business of the Executive. At present, the Plan is seen as failing to explain clearly to the public and this Council how particular consultation processes that the Executive decides to undertake are to be carried out. Would the Leader agree that for the benefit of the public and this Council, the Forward Plan needs to be made more specific with its description on the format of these consultations? ANSWER I am not aware of the perception of failure to which Councillor Mrs Witcher refers and would be grateful for any evidence she can provide that this is a widespread view. I am, however, always willing to consider suggestions for improving the usefulness of the Forward Plan and would welcome such suggestions from Councillor Mrs Witcher or from other members of Council or the public.
Is Oxfordshire County Council giving active support to the "Don’t Choke Britain Partnership"? The Partnership, which is not anti-car, promotes the idea of reducing reliance on the single-occupancy car, by promoting alternative forms of transport, such as buses, trains, walking and cycling. ANSWER The Council are involved with a number of promotional events – Walk to School Week is one example. However, it is felt that the year long work that is done in the Travelwise and Integrated Transport Departments has a better chance to change the way people travel and so gives better use of resources. We are supporting the very same ideals that ‘Don’t Choke Britain’ does, but tailored to the specific needs of this county. Schemes that are particularly successful in moving away from single occupancy car use are the Better Ways to School programmes and Travelplans. These, together with the work of the integrated transport officers, and indeed the new Water Eaton Park and Ride and the expanded Thornhill all give opportunities and the publicity to achieve modal shift. SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION I would like to thank Councillor Purse for the answer. I referred earlier this afternoon, however, to the fact that so-called green cars are actually failing the environment test and that emissions could be as low as zero in future for bio-fuels produced by the most advanced techniques and hydrogen power. I would like to ask Councillor Purse if she is prepared to pursue the great environmentalist Michael Meacher’s suggestion to me on Saturday that the DTI could give research and development grants to develop for example hydrogen powered cars? This would be one way of ensuring that there were not so many asthma sufferers and others suffering from pollution. SUPPLEMENTARY ANSWER I could say I approve of them. I could say that if I ever meet a car manufacturer whose arm I could twist I will put a word in about them. I am really not sure how I can in my role do anything to further this, but if I do find an occasion when I can (this is a joke by the way and not a bribe) I hope I could have a ride in one rather than be given one. I would very much like a ride in one. If I ever find an opportunity I will certainly push for them.
What steps is the Executive taking to increase the involvement of members in the planning of the county’s Capital budget? ANSWER The determination of the Council’s Capital Programme is and always has been reserved for the Council. However, the reality over some years now is that members have had little involvement in setting a strategy for capital spending or in determining the contents of the programme. There are a number of reasons why this should now change:
Member involvement is being enhanced in the following ways:
(e) It is worth stressing that, rather like the Revenue Budget, although the totality of the capital programme is quite large, the amount that is actually discretionary to members is relatively small. The main areas of unallocated capital resources are the Annual Capital Guideline allocations for Social Services and EPCS, together with the discretionary part of the basic credit approval. In 2003/04 we were allocated £454k for Social Services, £586k for EPCS and £968k Discretionary Basic Credit Approval. From 2004/05 we look likely to lose the Discretionary BCA. However we will then have the benefit of Prudential Guidelines for which we have built revenue costs of £2 million per annum for funding into the Medium Term Financial Plan. (f) Scrutiny Committees will have an opportunity to consider the draft capital strategy in the November/December 2003 cycle of meetings and Corporate Governance Scrutiny Committee in January 2004 will have a further opportunity to give advice to the Executive before the Executive advises Council on the capital and revenue budgets and the Council sets these budgets on 10 February 2004. SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION I would like to thank Councillor Mitchell for his very long and considered reply. In the first section Councillor Mitchell says over some years members have had little involvement in setting a strategy for capital spending. I recall at least one year and possibly two of the old Education Management Sub-Committee where indeed that Committee and its members did have a great deal of say in exactly which schools should be repaired and developed. In (b) he says the capital programme is significantly larger than it has been for a long time, and I am afraid that he does not give thanks to the Labour Government for that, but then I would not expect him to. In (a) he says this is now a member-led authority. Now I am sure that Councillor Mitchell does not watch Eastenders, but for those of us who do I can only say "you’re having a laugh aren’t you?" Very early on we discovered that the rogues gallery of photographs of all 70 councillors actually began at the very top with the officers’ photographs and I think that the way the Executive has been operating proves the rule. Does Councillor Mitchell not agree? The last time the Executive met some of us fell off our chairs because for once the Councillors actually turned over a recommendation by the officers. Since then I have been getting phone calls saying "what is going on in Oxfordshire County Council?" The officers suggested do not go ahead with the six-term year and the Executive said yes we do want to go ahead with the six terms. Now I cannot recall another occasion when the officers’ proposals to the Executive, and they meet every fortnight, has been turned over like that, so member-led authority – "you’re having a laugh aren’t you?". SUPPLEMENTARY ANSWER The rogues gallery, Chair, has 69 pictures and not 70. There is one member that is unwilling to provide anyone with a record of his face. More seriously, the capital programme, with its complexity, multi-dimensional nature both through time and appropriate services and of course different funding for all of this, has been difficult for members to follow and has not always tended to fit into the revenue budget cycle. I think, with perhaps the exception Councillor Hodgson referred to, it has been difficult for members to follow and has run itself. It is much bigger than it was; I do admit that quite freely. Primarily I guess the significant investment in the Oxford City Schools boosted it over a number of years, and the significant amount of money being put into Transport spending. One of the changes I am proposing in this answer is that the capital programme reporting which is currently quarterly should move to a monthly process to coincide with the revenue and be just one part of the whole picture, so that members see revenue and capital as a single set of resources to use to deliver the Council’s priorities. I hope that members will find that particularly helpful. I do certainly not watch Eastenders, so I am a bit lost over the reference that he gives, but this is a member-led authority. It was an authority that had three parties in opposition and we are all guilty of that. All three parties were in opposition from one time or another. It is an authority now that does have members delivering policy. I am not pleased when we turn over officer recommendations, Chair. We should have done a bit more work before the paper came forward with officers so that the report at the end of the day should deliver on the Council’s policy rather than have what might appear a rather late debate in public. In that way, Chair, I think the team will be working together to bring a report that meets the political objectives, has been debated, and evidenced thoroughly and enables members at the Executive on the day to agree policy and move it forward. It is a different Council now Chair.
Is the Executive planning to learn from Cambridgeshire County Council on "Social Inclusion through ICT" (Information Communication Technology)? Cambridgeshire County Council has just achieved Beacon Council status for its work in the ‘Social Inclusion through ICT’ category. ANSWER The Cambridgeshire scheme is a Broadband communication system that links schools, libraries, council offices and community access points. It has been developed with two District Councils and was helped by PFI credits from the DETR. It is not clear whether the system reaches all of the most remote villages. There appears to be no attempts to provide individual access for businesses in rural areas which is a particular objective of the Oxfordshire Scheme. I congratulate Cambridgeshire County Council on their success and hope that Oxfordshire will do even better. SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION I have got, and I am pretty sure Councillor Margaret Godden has as well, a report from the Countryside Agency which refers to the fact that 95% of households in urban areas, this is nationally of course, are covered by broadband access. 26% have got broadband access in market towns, 7% in rural villages and 1% in remote rural areas. Rural businesses rely to a far greater extent on dial-up modems. Now I know that Councillor Godden referred briefly to this in a previous comment on the Executive report, but I just wondered how quickly she feels the Executive are able to address this relative lack of provision in areas of the kind that I represent, where I am constantly getting concerns that there is not full access to broadband? SUPPLEMENTARY ANSWER Well I can assure Councillor Hodgson that we are putting all the pressure that we can on officers to resolve this problem and they are responding to that. As I said earlier we are currently in talks with BT and it is that 1% access that we really want to address. We would like to see Oxfordshire entirely wired up. It sound as though Cambridgeshire is in fact a very long way from that, and if we were able to do it, it would be I think a real first in the country. So we should not under-estimate what we are trying to achieve. We have made it very clear that that is what we are aiming at and we are under great pressure from the public to achieve it. We are doing our very best.
Is the Executive intending to restore the cut in this year’s budget for Health and Safety in Learning & Culture? ANSWER There is no plan for any expenditure under this heading this year. Should a special and urgent matter arise it would be considered on its merits. SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION Yes, Chair I am sorry about the discourtesy of not warning Councillor Crabbe about this. I do not really understand the reply because I have got in front of me a document, which I think Councillor Crabbe is aware of, that was tabled at the Teachers Consultative Committee on behalf of the Teacher Unions saying that the Learning & Culture Health & Safety Advisory Committee regret the reduction in their Education Health & Safety Budget and believe that such a cut-back is short-sighted. They are concerned about not being consulted at any time during the budget reduction process. Obviously they are concerned also about the 2004/05 budget and are concerned to be consulted on a matter as important as Health & Safety. I would have hoped for a better reply, frankly, on this vital matter. SUPPLEMENTARY ANSWER There is nothing more I can really say. There is no expenditure under this heading this year and, as I said, if anything urgent did come up then we would obviously consider it. Obviously it is too early to say whether or not this would be included in next year’s budget. What it will depend on is whether or not we get a more reasonable settlement from Government. Already we have had a very high increase in the Council Tax level and this is one of those things, unfortunately, which had to be dropped because of those reasons.
Does the Executive Member consider it to be appropriate that an Oxfordshire school should have to pay £3,000 for a private contractor to conduct a survey of works required on its premises in order to get W.S Atkins to take any action, or even to visit their premises, despite numerous previous requests for help from the school? ANSWER It is never acceptable when a satisfactory service is not provided. However, I am not in possession of any of the details of this particular case. I do not know who the numerous requests for help were made from or to, and whether any assistance was sought from our officers. I would also have expected the local member to have been contacted for assistance to obtain a satisfactory response. I shall be pleased to investigate this matter if Councillor Brown would provide me with more information.
54/03. MOTION FROM COUNCILLOR KEITH R. MITCHELL
(Agenda Item 14) Councillor Mitchell moved and Councillor Robertson seconded the following motion standing in his name at Item 14 in the agenda:- "Because of the emerging deficit budgets in many Oxfordshire schools and of the prospect of redundancy in schools due to government under-funding, this Council invites the Chief Executive of the Audit Commission to institute an examination of the processes and evidence base by which the government determined the level of funding for schools in the 2003/04 Local Government Settlement and to recommend what steps should be taken to deal with any perceived shortcomings in that process." After debate the motion was put to the vote and was carried by 21 votes to 0, with 14 abstentions. RESOLVED: accordingly.
55/03. MOTION FROM COUNCILLOR JEAN FOOKS
(Agenda Item 15) Councillor Fooks moved and Councillor Roaf seconded the following motion standing in her name at Item 15 in the agenda:- "Oxfordshire County Council views with concern the present lack of Government targets to meet stated objectives to reduce energy consumption and improve the energy efficiency of people's homes. It therefore welcomes the Sustainable Energy Bill currently entering the Committee stage in the House of Commons, which would not only set targets for improved domestic energy efficiency, for a reduction in carbon dioxide emissions and for 25% of our electricity to come from renewable sources by 2020, but also require an annual report of progress towards these targets. The County Council resolves to ask all Oxfordshire MPs to support the Bill and especially the retention of the targets within it, as the best way to ensure a real improvement in the quality of life of both its present and its future citizens." Councillor Hodgson moved and Councillor Hudson seconded the amendment of the motion by the deletion of the first sentence and the words "It therefore" at the beginning of the second sentence and their replacement by "Oxfordshire County Council". This amendment was acceptable to Councillor Fooks and with the leave of the Council and of her seconder she amended her motion accordingly. The substantive motion as amended was put to the vote and was carried nem con. RESOLVED: accordingly.
56/03. MOTION FROM COUNCILLOR BIDDY HUDSON
(Agenda Item 16) Councillor Hudson moved and Councillor Brighouse seconded the following motion standing in her name at Item 16 in the agenda:- "In view of our commitment to affordable and key worker housing, this Council advises the Executive that it should always consider local needs when disposing of surplus property, while bearing in mind the financial priorities of the Authority."
Councillor Margaret Godden then moved and Councillor Purse seconded the amendment of the motion by the deletion of the words "always consider" and their replacement by "continue the Council’s present practice of considering". On being put to the vote this amendment was carried by 18 votes to 17. The substantive motion as amended was then put to the vote and was carried nem con. RESOLVED: accordingly.
57/03. URGENT DECISION OF THE DEMOCRACY & ORGANISATION COMMITTEE: PERIODIC ELECTORAL REVIEW FOR THE COUNTY OF OXFORDSHIRE
(Agenda Item 17) In accordance with the requirement in Scrutiny Procedure Rule (18)(a), the Council was advised of a decision taken urgently by the Democracy & Organisation Committee on 15 May 2003, the reasons for the urgency and the fact that in the circumstances the Chair of the Council, following the Committee’s meeting, had agreed that the decision should be treated as a matter of urgency. RESOLVED: to note the position.
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