A request has been received to call in the
decision for scrutiny.
The following Councillors have requested the
decision be called in for
scrutiny:
Cllr Liz Brighouse
Cllr Larry Sanders
Cllr Richard Stevens
Cllr Val Smith
Cllr John Sanders
Cllr John Tanner
Cllr Roy Darke
Cllr Saj Malik
Cllr Sarah Hutchinson
Cllr Susanna Pressel
The decision
was:
"RESOLVED: to approve the proposed
service redesign and implementation of services for children, young people and
families as detailed in this report."
The reasons
given in the call-in request are:
We request that the decision taken by the
Cabinet on 19th April to set up an Early Intervention Service and to end
provision of youth work across the County be considered by the Children's
Scrutiny Committee so that:
1. Risks involved in pursuing this strategy, in particular those related to
1996 Education Act be mitigated.
2. The situation in relation to the provision of services delivered using Youth
Work methods and approaches can be clarified for those communities who are
listed as losing this provision.
A copy of the report to Cabinet (CA7) is attached.
Minutes:
The Committee was required to
consider the following motion for a call-in.
We
request that the decision taken by the Cabinet on 19th April to set up an Early
Intervention Service and to end provision of youth work across the County be
considered by the Children's Scrutiny Committee so that:
The Scrutiny
Committee had before it the report of the Director for Children, Young People
and Schools to the Cabinet on 19 April 2011 together with the draft minutes of
that meeting.
The Chairman explained that, if the call-in were to be supported the
issue would be referred back to the Cabinet for further consideration. The
Committee was not expected to consider the whole issue of the future of the
youth service but the specifics of the call-in motion. Did the Cabinet take
account of the risks associated with the project? Would the proposed changes
“end provision of youth work across the County”? Would referral back be
necessary to achieve clarification of the nature of the future service?
Those supporting the call-in proposal were then invited to speak.
Ms Cat Hobbs spoke on behalf of “Oxford Save Our Services” in support of
the call in being referred back to Cabinet for further consideration. Ms Hobbs
stated that she considered that there were risks attached to the proposed
changes. Vulnerable children could be put at risk if they had no youth service
to turn to.
The proposals for hubs and satellites were unclear and left a number of
questions unanswered. For example: Would open access continue? Would youth work
be targeted at specific groups? Why was there apparently no requirement for
professionally trained youth workers? How many centres would there be? What
level of Big Society provision would be needed? Where would young people go if
their local youth centre were to close?
Ms Hobbs ended by stating that, in the view of “Oxford Save Our
Services” the Cabinet decision had been based on shaky evidence with unclear
plans that left the future uncertain.
Councillor Larry Sanders spoke in support of the call in being referred
back to Cabinet for further consideration. He considered that there was a
serious lack of information and that made the decision unsafe. Councillor
Sanders also raised a number of questions: Where will the youth services take
place? How will they be delivered? How can meaningful consultation take place
when there is such paucity of information? More information, Colonel Sanders
said, is needed.
Councillor Val Smith spoke on behalf of the Councillors calling in the
decision. Councillor Smith also referred to the lack of information. She
referred to the Education Act which requires local authorities to provide
activities including youth work. Councillor Smith asked whether the Act would
be complied with? She queried why no clear, concise list of youth activities
has been published that would enable a judgement to be made on compliance with
the Act.
Councillor Smith referred to the
fact that there appeared to be no requirement for trained youth workers to be
employed in the hubs. She considered that, if that were to be the case, there
would be a risk that issues that professional youth workers might pick up on
could be missed.
Councillor Smith expressed concerns about just what the provision would
be and how it would be implemented. There is more to youth services than early
intervention and it would be important to ensure that the range of services
should continue.
Councillor Janet Godden stated that she considered that risk analysis
was poor and that emphasis on what young people want, rather than than what is needed, would lead to woolliness
In response to the above and questions from members of the Committee the
Cabinet Member and the Director for Children, Young People and Families made the
following points.
There is no intention to “end provision of youth work across the
County”. The service would continue but in a different form and an extra £1.4m
had been included in the Council's budget to help with implementation of the
new service and to mitigate risk.
They were very conscious of the fact that the exact shape of the hub and
satellite model of youth services remains unclear but that development of this
had been slowed by the need to restructure management of the Directorate in the
face of the County Council's current financial position. Now the restructuring
had been completed they could move ahead with setting up the new service. The
shape of the service would be based on a needs assessment. Young people would
be closely involved with the development of the new set up. There would be an
external evaluation of the proposals for the newly developed service.
Open access to youth services would continue.
The provision of the Education Act were very broad. The Council was not
required to provide youth services but must ensure that services are available.
Thus they could commission services in line with the needs assessment and/or
support voluntary and local groups in providing services. Bids for Big Society
funding were already being made by groups in villages across the County.
The concerns about trained youth workers were recognised. However, there
is a need for a balance of staff with the necessary skills and attributes to
provide a wide ranging service.
All of the identified risks have been taken into account. There needs to
be a balance of service between open access and targeted services. Which is
used depends on the needs and wants of children across the County and what is
best for each individual child. The needs assessment would be very important in
reaching such decisions.
Following the discussion the Chairman, Councillor Ann Bonner, stated
that in her view the Committee had heard nothing that would suggest that the
Cabinet had not taken into account any possible risks. There would not be a
cessation of youth services but there would be a fundamental change in how
services would be provided.
Councillor Bonner did have some concerns about the lack of clarity and information about the
future shape of the service and requested that more information be published as
soon as possible. The Chairman also asked that the Children's Services Scrutiny
Committee should be provided with information at each of their meetings on
progress in developing the new youth service.
With regard to the latter point the Cabinet Member gave an
undertaking that the Committee would be given the opportunity to scrutinise the
proposals for the future of the service.
The Chairman then asked the
Committee to vote on the call-in motion. Two votes were taken; one on each
element of the call-in.
On part 1 the proposal was rejected by 8 votes to 3.
On part 2 the proposal was rejected by 8 votes to 2 with 1 abstention.
The Chairman thanked the speakers and the Committee for their attendance
and closed the meeting.
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